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starfishstar ([personal profile] starfishstar) wrote2016-02-21 09:47 pm
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Of Water Horses and What to Write Next

More thoughts about writing...

(Can you tell I only really get a chance to get online on the weekends these days, and have to post all my thoughts all at once then??)

Anyway:

Perhaps surprisingly – given that Harry Potter is one of my favorite things – in my original writing I've never felt particularly drawn to write either fantasy or YA. My writing tends to be quite serious and realistic, looking at questions of life and human connections, and character-focused almost to the exclusion of all else. (Er, much like my fic, yes. And yes, even in my Harry Potter fic I've often had to remind myself to add magic bits in, because I'm so focused on my character explorations, I almost forget to even nod to this whole fantasy setting that was the source of it all!)

When I made a stab at writing a novel a couple years ago, though, I quickly realized that going on about character development for 50,000 words is not actually enough. A novel needs a framework, be that "mystery" or "quest" or "romance" or whatever other type of plot, to form the scaffolding; then the character development can drape elegantly over and around that structure. Or at least that's how I've come to see it.

So I've put my energy into writing fic (yay!) and especially into trying out stories with more plot, stories based around a mystery or action or adventure, where the character stuff is woven in around that, rather than being the sole focus. It's been really fun! I'm learning a lot!

But every now and then I check back in with myself to see whether I have any ideas about what kind of story I might want to tell whenever I do circle back around to writing original stuff, and every time the answer seems to be...uh, nope, sorry, still no ideas.

Which brings us to:

I'm finally reading a book by Maggie Stiefvater. (I say "finally" because her name seems to come up constantly in YA circles, so I decided I really needed to pick a book of hers and get to it!) This one's called "The Scorpio Races" and I'm really digging the world-building. The premise involves "capaill uisce," or water horses, scary mythical beasts of Celtic legend, and the author both draws on the folklore about these creatures and also plunks them down in a quite mundane setting of cars and shops and tourists, and lets you figure out gradually how the particular magic of these creatures works, in this modern-day context.

And I love stuff like that! I've contemplated the idea of a Sherlock/Song of the Sea fusion (i.e., as selkies), and for Holmestice I wrote a fic where Sherlock was a dryad and Mrs Hudson was a griffin (and Lestrade was a very baffled, normal cop trying to figure out what the hell was going on around him) and it was so much fun! Also: I have loved writing the werewolf pack OCs for "Raise Your Lantern High," and researching Celtic/Pagan traditions for them has been one of my favorite things about that story.

So maybe there's something there for me, some potential to play in the fantasy genre by discovering and reimagining something out of this kind of folklore/mythology and turning it into something "original". (As much as any story in our collective storytelling tradition is ever completely new!) I mean, I know I would also still have to come up with an actual plot, and not just "hey, look, it's got this cool mythical creature in it." But it's an idea and a start, and the first thing that's pinged my "ooh, that might be fun to write about!" sense in a while. (Outside of fic, I mean. I have
"ooh, I want to write that!" moments about fic constantly.)
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[personal profile] gracerene 2016-02-22 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
A novel needs a framework, be that "mystery" or "quest" or "romance" or whatever other type of plot, to form the scaffolding; then the character development can drape elegantly over and around that structure.

I love this! That feels very accurate, IMO.

Also, yay about getting on the Maggie train! I really enjoyed Scorpio Races. :D
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[personal profile] nerakrose 2016-02-22 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
when you said "I'm reading a book by Maggie stiefvater" I was expecting the next sentence to be "and I've realised its okay to write character driven books" XD her series the raven cycle (which I LOVE and highly recommend) are character driven almost to the extreme! There's a plot (dead Welsh kings, ley lines, other supernatural stuff), but honestly...the plot comes second. The only reason I care about the plot in these books is because the characters care, and I care about the characters desperately and need and want them to be happy/find closure.
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[personal profile] nerakrose 2016-02-25 12:03 pm (UTC)(link)
:D i know what you mean. it's something i struggle with as well!

i've not read scorpio races, but i'll probably check them out at some point. :)
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[personal profile] nerakrose 2016-02-28 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I looked at the shiver books and tbh they don't appeal to me very much. They don't sound like something I'd be interested in. Scorpio races though, I like the sound of that. :)
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[personal profile] nerakrose 2016-02-28 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I don't know? The books are very pretty (I do judge books by their covers, I can't help it) but when I looked at the summary for the first one, my immediate reaction was "okay, I dont care." That's not to say they can't be enjoyable, or good, I'm just not interested in that particular type of plot! (By which I mean: tortured werewolf boy + doomed love.) maybe if the book had been lgbtqa+ in some way, I'd have been more interested, but these days I just have so little patience for hetero relationships that most of the time I just go "ugh". (The raven cycle ticks off the boxes gay character, unconfirmed bisexual character, and disabled character. Plus all sorts of mental health issues that should probably be adressed by professionals in-universe, but aren't.)

Scorpio races has a really interesting premise, but from the summary I gather that there's likely going to be a hetero love story in it, so I'm saving that for sometime later when I'm feeling less hostile towards that sort of thing.

[identity profile] indybaggins.livejournal.com 2016-02-22 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
some potential to play in the fantasy genre by discovering and reimagining something out of this kind of folklore/mythology and turning it into something "original" Oh yes! I think sometimes the best inspiration comes from knowing a story, or the basics of it, and then going, 'and now I'm going to tell this my way'.

[identity profile] indybaggins.livejournal.com 2016-02-24 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
this makes me want to go hole up in a library for a couple months just reading up on mythical/folkloric creatures Oh, sign me up! I often wish there was a way to go to 'writing boarding school', where you just pack your bags, and there's a huge library and writing rooms, and you spend all week there away from it all, and getting so much done! I guess that's the big dream all writers have! Or a cottage by the sea somewhere or such :)

[identity profile] indybaggins.livejournal.com 2016-02-28 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
For a while I totally had this very strong fantasy about a remote cabin in the woods by the stormy north Atlantic coast *gasp of longing* Yes! YES! Oh I would adore that. I think it comes with being an introvert (and a writer, I suppose) but alone time with nature and just a chance to think and feel away from everything else, it sounds glorious.

Do you happen to have links of the artist residency and the group in Berlin? I do travel a lot, so I might be able to do that some day... I imagine it's not cheap, though? And yes to the self-imposed retreat, I always enjoy writing on planes, too, so I'm sure I will do a lot when travelling next month.

[identity profile] indybaggins.livejournal.com 2016-02-29 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the link! I bookmarked it. I've been planning to go to Berlin sometime in July or August, I might see if there's something on around then and if the dates work out maybe a one-day event because those sound really fun! But yeah, I think anything week(s) long I'd probably have to arrange myself because even if it exists it would be quite pricey. Probably easier just to rent a house by the sea for a week with a couple of writer friends and hold each other accountable for writing every day. Yes! That would be awesome! I'd say 'let me know if you ever want to do that' but um, realistically I can't just hop over to the US. It would be a nice dream though! :)

[identity profile] indybaggins.livejournal.com 2016-03-07 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
(Sorry for the late reply, I moved out this week and then spent the weekend in Paris, writing this while waiting for my train by the Gare du Nord :))

Berlin, ah, sorry! I don't have any definite plans yet so I could probably adjust my dates? Depends on what else I do in summer, I think I'll be quite busy in July, but not so much August. It would be really fun to meet you! :) I'd definetly be up for it. Same for renting something by the sea and writing, aaah! Yes! Okay, we definetly need to talk when it's a bit closer to summer. I would probably need to know when in May or early June? :)

[identity profile] indybaggins.livejournal.com 2016-03-11 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
Let's! And I do think it can be done, I travel, um, often... *is writing this from Bangkok airport* ;)

[identity profile] indybaggins.livejournal.com 2016-03-16 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Thailand is wonderful! Last time I was here I considered moving here, I loved it that much. So now coming back I was a bit worried about whether it would hold up to its reputation in my mind, but it totally has, I still adore it! I still wish I could live here, tbh, but then I would never make enough money to travel anywhere else, that's why working in Europe makes more sense...

You lived here for a year, I'm jealous! Funny, I was an exchange student to the US! :)

[identity profile] indybaggins.livejournal.com 2016-03-20 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
A small town in Wisconsin, of all places... Not the best for me then (being a queer vegetarian didn't help) but I've been back to the US many times since then and found loads of places I like better :)

Where were you in Thailand?